We already have an active art, podfic and vidding posting presence despite not having the functionality to support it.
This concerns me: the larger the presence of art, podfic, and vids on the archive before the archive has the functionality to support them, the more issues I see down the road. IMO, meta will be easier to fold into the archive than art, podfic, and vids simply because it is text based, but the fact that those have already been welcomed without the functionality necessary to sustain them long-term is a concern to me.
I'm a vidder, and just yesterday I was looking at if I want to put my vids on AO3, and I decided not to because the archive just isn't set up with anything but fic in mind. It becomes really obvious when you go to "post new" and everything is tailored to posting fic. I sent a message to support with feedback -- a vidder wishlist really -- about what I'd want before I put my vids there (which in retrospect maybe wasn't the best timing if they are currently getting slammed with support tickets regarding meta), but the whole thing makes me nervous if AO3 becomes the place to post everything before it's been tailored to fit the needs of anything but fic writers.
(It also doesn't help that, while I know that the Torrent of Our Own is somewhere down the road, it's never been clear to me if the OTW/AO3 had any plans apart from that for making the archive vidding friendly. Not to mention, "somewhere down the road" is a timeframe without reference.)
Anyway, I know that you guys are working hard and dealing with a slew of other issues right now, and while I'm concerned about it as a vidder, I'm also not angry or upset with the OTW/AO3/you/anyone about it. It's just that I hope that the OTW/AO3 is aware of the issues moving forward and is working to find ways to actively fix them so that everything that isn't fic doesn't continue on the archive in this weird out-of-place limbo.
And, for the record, I'm happy that meta is allowed on the archive (my concerns above, aside) and I'm finding your posts very interesting. Sometimes it's hard to get a sense of how and what the OTW is doing from the outside, so I really appreciate it when people commit to making posts about their work in the org and their experiences with it.
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Date: 2013-02-19 07:59 pm (UTC)This concerns me: the larger the presence of art, podfic, and vids on the archive before the archive has the functionality to support them, the more issues I see down the road. IMO, meta will be easier to fold into the archive than art, podfic, and vids simply because it is text based, but the fact that those have already been welcomed without the functionality necessary to sustain them long-term is a concern to me.
I'm a vidder, and just yesterday I was looking at if I want to put my vids on AO3, and I decided not to because the archive just isn't set up with anything but fic in mind. It becomes really obvious when you go to "post new" and everything is tailored to posting fic. I sent a message to support with feedback -- a vidder wishlist really -- about what I'd want before I put my vids there (which in retrospect maybe wasn't the best timing if they are currently getting slammed with support tickets regarding meta), but the whole thing makes me nervous if AO3 becomes the place to post everything before it's been tailored to fit the needs of anything but fic writers.
(It also doesn't help that, while I know that the Torrent of Our Own is somewhere down the road, it's never been clear to me if the OTW/AO3 had any plans apart from that for making the archive vidding friendly. Not to mention, "somewhere down the road" is a timeframe without reference.)
Anyway, I know that you guys are working hard and dealing with a slew of other issues right now, and while I'm concerned about it as a vidder, I'm also not angry or upset with the OTW/AO3/you/anyone about it. It's just that I hope that the OTW/AO3 is aware of the issues moving forward and is working to find ways to actively fix them so that everything that isn't fic doesn't continue on the archive in this weird out-of-place limbo.
And, for the record, I'm happy that meta is allowed on the archive (my concerns above, aside) and I'm finding your posts very interesting. Sometimes it's hard to get a sense of how and what the OTW is doing from the outside, so I really appreciate it when people commit to making posts about their work in the org and their experiences with it.